最近不知道哪裡聽到,在一處樹的凹處裡,找到一個入定上百年的修行人,他一出定就問起自己家人,不過朝代、時代都已經變了。另外一個普巴扎西仁波切常講的故事:一個牧童有天遇到山洞中修行的密樂日巴,也想學他那樣禪修。密勒日巴見他頗有善根就教他打坐,這牧童一坐就是七天,直到家人鄰居在一處山洞中找到他,他一出定就問到他的牛呢?是不是該回家了?完全不知道已經過了七天之久。
這意思是說即便是肉體也可以暫停飲食的意願。而這裡所講的做夢體沒有飲食的意願,是指當把做夢體當成日常世界的幻身在生活時,他沒辦法吃下實質的食物,因為做夢體的本質是能量體,純能量而已。這完全是針對在日常生活中而言的,做夢中做夢體依然可以體驗飲食的感覺,因為是意生身,也就是心結合五感官功能:色聲香味觸都可以感受到。
「唐望故事」做夢篇 REVIEW-41
「天啊!我們是在回憶起『另一個自己』(the other self,指分身)!」她驚呼道,聲音近乎歇斯底里。然後她平靜下來,以緩和的聲音繼續說,「顯然我們已經去過那裡,而回憶起它的唯一方法就是我們正在做的,在共同做夢時射出我們的做夢體。」
「『射出我們的做夢體』是什麼意思?」我問。
「你親眼目睹過哲那羅射出他的做夢體,」她說,「它就像一顆慢速子彈砰地一聲出來;實際上,它從身體上脫開或黏住時,會伴隨一聲巨響。
「Nagual告訴我,哲那羅的做夢體能夠做我們平常大部分的事情。他過去常以這種方式來找你,以便震動你。我現在知道Nagual和哲那羅想要什麼了。他們要你去回憶起這點,為了達到這個效果,哲那羅常常射出他的做夢體,在你眼前表演不可思議的行動,但無濟於事。」
「我從來不知道他是處於做夢體中。」我說。
「你從來不知道是因為你沒有在看,」她說,「哲那羅試圖藉由做那些做夢體無法做的事情來讓你知道,比如吃、喝等等。Nagual告訴我,哲那羅曾經和你開玩笑說他要去拉屎而讓群山震動。」
「為什麼做夢體無法做那些事情呢?」我問。
「因為做夢體無法處理吃或喝的意願。」她回答。
「拉葛達,妳這是什麼意思?」我問。
「哲那羅的偉大成就在於,他在做夢中學會了身體的意願,」她解釋,「他完成了你已經開始做的事情。他可以竭盡可能地完美夢出他整個身體。
「但是做夢體的意願與肉體的意願不同。例如,做夢體可以穿過牆壁,因為它知道消失於空氣中的意願。而肉體知道飲食的意願,但不知道消失的意願。對哲那羅的肉體來說,要穿過一道牆就像要他的做夢體吃東西一樣不可能。」
《老鷹的贈予》pp. 174-175 重譯
"Holy Jesus! We are remembering the other self!" she exclaimed, her voice almost bordering on hysteria. Then she calmed down and went on talking in a subdued tone. "Evidently we've already been there and the only way of remembering it is the way we're doing it, by shooting off our dreaming bodies while dreaming together."
"What do you mean, shooting off our dreaming bodies?" I asked.
"You yourself have witnessed when Genaro used to shoot off his dreaming body," she said. "It pops off like a slow bullet. It actually glues and unglues itself from the physical body with a loud crack.
"The Nagual told me that Genaro's dreaming body could do most of the things we normally do. He used to come to you that way in order to jolt you. I know now what the Nagual and Genaro were after. They wanted you to remember, and for that effect Genaro used to perform incredible feats in front of your very eyes by shooting off his dreaming body. But to no avail."
"I never knew that he was in his dreaming body," I said.
"You never knew because you weren't watching," she said. "Genaro tried to let you know by attempting to do things that the dreaming body cannot do, like eating, drinking, and so forth. The Nagual told me that Genaro used to joke with you that he was going to shit and make the mountains tremble."
"Why can't the dreaming body do those things?" I asked.
"Because the dreaming body cannot handle the intent of eating, or drinking," she replied.
"What do you mean by that, Gordar" I asked.
"Genaro's great accomplishment was that in his dreaming he learned the intent of the body," she explained. "He finished what you had started to do. He could dream his whole body as perfectly as it could be.
"But the dreaming body has a different intent from the intent of the physical body. For instance, the dreaming body can go through a wall, because it knows the intent of disappearing into thin air. The physical body knows the intent of eating, but not the one of disappearing. For Genaro's physical body to go through a wall would be as impossible as for his dreaming body to eat."